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Old 03-04-2010, 12:35 PM Top   #1 (permalink)
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hey guys... been busy building on a fighter have not had much time to pop in, figured i would post up how she is coming. not bad for a 2 month build should be riding her later next week

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she is slammmmmmmed! even the wife who is 5'2 can stand flat foot


mock up wiht blocked and primed plastics


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thanks man! it is going to have a very heavy german influence on the style (without the weird tails they do) the powder sucks to work with... flat out sucks worste powder ever but it looks killllller, so after the engine cases are done the rest of the powder is in the trash and we will never shoot it again....
in the sun it is insane!!!!
i have only worked on rockets never built one of my own... this sucker is going to be FAST: re geared, full pipe, intake, pro jet kit, upgraded front brakes and braided lines, progressive springs and heavier fork oil, going to RIP
the wife is going to ride it till we can find her a harley to cut up and build something wild... her bob is for sale come spring
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looks bitchin man! wow... that orange really does pop... i cant imagine in the sun...

so if a person was to bring everything to you that youve powder coated on this bike, how much would they be lookin to spend?
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ha ha ha ha I have no idea, i mean i have coated EVERYTHING! even the motor mount spacers that you do not see the coil brackets...
they would be in a few g's i would guess with the type of powder we are using and the $ of the base coat and the $ of the top coat.
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awe man thats gotta be nice :-) what exactly kind of a setup do you need to have to do the powder coating? is it kinda like a huge oven you have to "cure" the "paint.. (dont know powder coating terms
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we have 2 tanks, on is a degreaser, one is a chemical tank to strip paint/powder. after that it goes though a parts cleaner and is dried. from there it is blasted. some parts require out gassing so then we will do an outgass cycle at the end of the night, while other parts can be powdered after blasting
our oven is 8ftx5ft x8ft. when me move into the new location the new oven will be 24x24x11 so that we can do frames for a trailer company out here. all in time though
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whats an outgas cycle?

sorry for being so inquisitive

is there a proper technique you had to develop for powder coating?

i bet those ovens are a pretty penny?

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most cast metals and parts that have been chromed have air pockets that are trapped i the metal, when you heat the item up those pockets are released and will bubble up into your powder... so you outgass an item at around 400 degrees for over 45 minutes to eliminate this issue, then give it a final blast, prep, and powder then cure it in a curring cycle, or however your are going to coat the item (cross link, base coat, top coat, effect, whatever)
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ha ha ha hater.... just got the new wagner with fluidizer, this thing is insane!!!!! just an awesome system, the control it gives you is unreal, just an awesome system....
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hmmm,, ok hold on,, i am sure i can some up with something to counter that
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ha ha ha, ooh ya i tried to powder a set of fork tubes.... failed misserably.... horrible idea! ooh well glad i had an extra set
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ya tried to powder stanchions

gotta do a metal treatment on them,, ti nitride etc
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yep i learned that... i tried to lay it super thin at 1 mill, then i wet sanded and polished them to get them as smooth as possible, I used an epoxy base super durrable powder to handle the oils... thought i was good to go till the tube got stuck in the lower, was a mess, ooh well. just in case i did not blast the heck out of the tubes, so i can just strip and polish them and have a perfectly good set of lowers again... was just a let down


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we have 2 tanks, on is a degreaser, one is a chemical tank to strip paint/powder. after that it goes though a parts cleaner and is dried. from there it is blasted. some parts require out gassing so then we will do an outgass cycle at the end of the night, while other parts can be powdered after blasting
our oven is 8ftx5ft x8ft. when me move into the new location the new oven will be 24x24x11 so that we can do frames for a trailer company out here. all in time though
so for the outgassing you could literally throw, say like a sissy bar, in a convetional oven and "bake" it at the 400?

where could a person go about picking up a decent sized oven for this process my friend? say like 4x6x5 or so? do they make them that small?

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Teds fabrications sells some awesome ovens. but to be honest the oven is the smallest part of powder work... it is all in the prep, a compressor with a min of 15 - 20 CFM is the KEY, a good media booth, we have 2 one with steel grit 40 and one with 80 grit alum oxide, for prep and a clean work enviorment, the oven is the last step and the easiest of the process, the prep is the key or unprepped powder chips and flakes just like crap spray paint work no a sissy bar would prob not require an outgass cycle
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the worst part for me was keeping the compressed air dry. on a budget, it was a bear. ran it through two cycles before i got clean air.
i bought one of teds ovens, worst thing i ever purchased. ended up building my own, 8x5x8.
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We have skookum big air dryers at work, for drying the instrument air.

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really? sounds like you are running too much hose line, did you have a hard line or hoses? how many water catches per feet? moisture is a BEAR sometimes.. exp on hot days after 10 hours of running strait
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the prob was with my compressor, too small, ran too hot, too cheap to buy another one.
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feel ya on that one, we just got a huge 38CFM compressor, it is a monster. the old one we still use but mainly for the smaller blast cabinet and paint guns and blow lines.... i have put a new pump on it 3x's but she keeps running like a champ! the new one will get hooked up in the new shop, till then it will stay crated looking pretty in the corner
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wow! big bike weekend! got a ton done on the fighter and just as much on the gold wing.... got the tank, f fender, front fairing, and chain case cover all painted.
5 coats semi gloss black, 4 coats of mat clear, PERFECTLY the color i wanted.... i was going to do some airbrush work on it but my buddies would not let me, i got the whole "less is more speach" and i have to say, they where right! this looks insane!
also tore appart the calipers and powdered those in gloss black to make them pop a bit on the flat, also coated the rest of the engine cases and all the rest of the orange, now it is just putting it all back together!


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some of the orange (passanger supports and heel guards, as well as the new mirrors)

gloss black brake calipers

engine cases


also got the carbs cleaned and the new jets in... looking good. my speed bleeders came in so when my rebuild kit for the calipers comes in i can get some stopping power on this sucker
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Coming along nicely Joe

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freagin beautiful! these kind of posts make my day
i bet your woman is pretty stoaked to see it coming together so beautiful

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ya not sure hwo to crop down the pics...t rust me i would love to you can really see all the greasey finger prints all over everything when they are that big!
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lol... who wrote "GAY" on your skoal?
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that is like the ongoing gag in the shop, i dip skoal strait, every time i put my tin down i come back and strait is crossed out and GAY is wrote on it... every time!
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hahahaha man oh man do i know shenanigans like that
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Coming along nicely Joe

Now where the hell are the picture police

800 pixels wide Buddy......800 pixels
I could post an equally large sized turd pic in here to really draw attention to the size of these pics.

But I like what I see here, looks real sweet, I would hate to "taint" this thread with a turd pic.
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man i know it may not seem like much but i have been working and trying to figure out the rear section and the tail light on this bike forever, after some sanding and cutting, bit of polishing work... got it all fingured out and mounted ready for paint!
also tossed on the front fender and mocked up the lamp and tank lid. looks pretty sweet, wish the camera did not blow balls to show how it looked











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rock on man!!! the front is lookin sick! i bet your woman is stoked!
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well, did not get much done last night... ya know St. Paddys day and all... but, while i waited on the wife to come home i put in the rebuild kit in the brakes, cleaned up the pistons, put in the new composite pads, cleaned up the braided lines, and mounted them all up... my speed bleeders are here so i just have to pick up some dot 4 and i can bleed them out!

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eliminated the junction and ran them right to the master, have a bit of extra but i can secure that nicely so it does not look all floppy



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did you rebuild that engine?
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motor did not need rebuilt was in great shape, compression tests where great and showed no wear on the pistons or rings, everythign looked great so i set the valves and buttoned it back up. i did change the gearing on the bike for a bit more UMPH!

Well, got after it Thurs and Fri night, got the rest of the paint done, rear brakes lined up (still need to mount up the master so i have not blead them yet), front engine brace on the other side, picked up my engine gasket kit, and started to wire the bike, also got the passanger peg supports on the bike. once the wiring is done, then i can put in the gaskets, get the radiator and exhaust back on... finish the carbs (need to set the floats, jet kit is already in there)
almost! workign like crazy!!!!
after the last coat of semi gloss black, snapped a pic after the booth cleared out and i was getting the clear ready

Paint done

12 hours later, had to do a mock up


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